How Painting Subs Bid and Bill Commercial Work

By Wyatt Cooper · Published · 12 min read

Key takeaways

  • Take off by surface and coating system (square feet of wall, each door frame, linear feet of trim), then turn quantities into hours with your own production rates and into gallons with each product's spread rate.
  • Write the trade lines into the bid: the drywall finish level you are painting over, exposed ductwork and pipe in open ceilings, factory-finished items, and that damage by others is a change order, not touch-up.
  • Split the schedule of values into prime and finish coats so you can bill the prime coat the month it goes on, and keep a punch and touch-up line so the last return trip has money behind it.
  • In the example below, a fictional 24,000-square-foot office fit-out prices at $37,256 of direct cost and $42,844 bid, and its first big pay period bills $18,670 with $1,867.00 retained.

Commercial painting subs bid from the finish schedule and the painting specification: they take off each surface by coating system, convert square feet, door counts and linear feet into labor hours with their own production rates and into gallons with each product's spread rate, then clarify the drywall finish level, exposed mechanical work and damage by others. They bill monthly against a schedule of values split by area and by prime and finish coats, with a final line for punch, touch-up and attic stock.

What a commercial painting scope covers, and what it leaves out

The painting section of the specification (09 90 00 in MasterFormat) lists what gets painted, the coating system for each surface and what is excluded. The federal guide specification is a good model of how detailed that list is (UFGS 09 90 00). It says not to paint surfaces in concealed spaces, defined as "enclosed spaces above suspended ceilings, furred spaces, attic spaces, crawl spaces, elevator shafts and chases", nor "Hardware, fittings, and other factory finished items", unless indicated otherwise. Where a space is painted, it includes "Exposed piping, conduit, and ductwork", their supports and hangers, and grilles and registers. Read your project's version of that list line by line: exposed mechanical work in an open-ceiling office can be a large share of the labor.

Painting is one of the last trades on a job, so it is the one that absorbs everyone else's delay. Where painting sits in the whole job, from bid to closeout, is in the construction project lifecycle; this guide is the painter's part of it.

Take off by surface and coating system

Painters measure what they paint, in the unit that drives the labor. Walls and ceilings are square feet by coating system and by height (a wall you reach from the floor and one you reach from a lift are different prices). Doors and frames are counted each. Trim, handrails and exposed pipe are linear feet. The finish schedule also tells you how many colors there are, and every extra color is another cut line and another setup.

What a painting takeoff measures, and what turns it into a price
SurfaceMeasured inSystem, from the spec's paint tablesWhat changes the price
Gypsum board wallsSquare feet, by height bandPrimer, intermediate and topcoat (three coats) in the sheen the schedule namesFinish level of the board, number of colors, cut lines at ceilings
Gypsum board ceilings and soffitsSquare feetUsually flat, same primerHeight, access around ceiling grid and lights
Hollow metal door frames and doorsEachMetal primer where not shop-primed, then finish coatsShop-primed or bare, masking hardware
Trim, handrails, guardrailsLinear feetMetal or wood systemNumber of pickets and returns
Exposed structure, deck, duct and pipeSquare feet of ceiling, or linear feet of pipeOften a single sprayed dryfall coat over shop primerLift rental, masking, overspray protection
Concrete masonry wallsSquare feetBlock filler, then finish coatsBlock filler is a full extra coat and slower

Labor comes from production rates (square feet per hour per coat, doors per hour), and those are your own: measure them from your crews' past jobs, because no published rate fits every crew and every building. Material is quantity divided by the product's spread rate per coat on its data sheet, times the number of coats. The federal guide specification's interior gypsum board systems, for example, are a primer, an intermediate coat and a topcoat, to a 4-mil total dry film thickness (UFGS 09 90 00). Price the coats the spec calls for, not the two coats you usually do.

Clarifications that keep a painting bid whole

Where painting scope disputes start, and what to write in your proposal
Trade lineThe questionWrite in your clarifications
Drywall finish levelIs the board finished to the level the sheen and lighting need?Painting priced over the finish level shown; surface defects in the board are by the drywall sub
Exposed MEP in open ceilingsWho paints duct, pipe, conduit and hangers?Included where the spec lists it, by area; factory-finished items excluded
Damage by othersIs repainting a wall another trade damaged your touch-up?Damage by others repaired on a change order, lump sum or time and material
ColorsHow many colors and accent walls did you price?The number of colors per area, and a price per added color
Sprinkler heads and devicesWho protects them, and who pays for a painted head?Heads shielded while you paint, as many specs require; replacing heads painted by others excluded
Return tripsHow many mobilizations are in your price?Prime, finish and one punch trip included; extra trips at a stated rate

The drywall-to-paint line is the one most painters lose money on. A wall finished to a lower level than its sheen and lighting need will show every joint under paint, and the painter is the one standing in front of it. Read how drywall and framing subs bid for the finish levels and where they are specified, then name the level you priced over.

Damage by others has an industry standard behind it. The Painting Contractors Association's standard P1 says damage caused by others "will be corrected by the painting and decorating contractor after a change order is received from the contracting entity", on "either a lump sum or time and material basis", and that it is "distinct from touch up" (PCA P1). It also defines how a finished wall is judged: "without magnification at a distance of thirty-nine (39) inches or one (1) meter, or more, under finished lighting conditions and from a normal viewing position." Citing the standard in your clarifications costs nothing and settles arguments later. When the damage comes, price it as you would any change order request.

Brightline Painting, proposal clarifications: Harbor Point office fit-out, levels 2 and 3

Basis
Finish schedule and Section 09 90 00, issue for construction set, addenda 1 and 2
Walls
Three-coat latex system over Level 4 board; areas specified for Level 5 painted as shown, board finish by others
Colors
Five wall colors and one accent per floor included; each added color $350
Exposed ceilings
Dryfall, one sprayed coat over shop primer at the open office; lift included
Excluded
Factory-finished items, hardware, concealed spaces, wall covering, firestopping
Damage by others
Repaired on a change order, per PCA P1
Trips
Prime, finish and one punch trip; additional trips $1,100 each
The clarifications block of a fictional painting proposal

Submittals, colors and site conditions

Painting submittals are light on paper and heavy on color. The federal guide specification asks for product data sheets, color samples and, for textured coatings, a mock-up, and says "Submit manufacturer's samples of paint colors. Cross reference color samples to color scheme as indicated." It also asks the painter to "Tint each coat progressively darker to enable confirmation of the number of coats", which is worth doing on any job where coats will be counted (UFGS 09 90 00). Where a project uses the Master Painters Institute's Approved Products List, the same section says "each coating system is to be from a single manufacturer", so check that your preferred primer and finish come from one maker before you price. How to prepare a submittal covers the package itself.

Colors that say "to be selected" are a schedule risk, not a pricing one: you cannot finish a wall until the color is picked. Note the date you need selections by in your bid, and log the day they arrive. Site conditions matter too: the same guide specification says not to apply coatings when air or substrate conditions are less than 5 degrees F above the dew point, or below 50 degrees F or above 95 degrees F unless pre-approved. An unheated building in winter is a reason not to start, and a reason to send a written notice.

Worked example: from takeoff to bid

The fictional "Brightline Painting" is bidding the two office floors above. The production rates, spread rates and prices below are example figures for this walk-through, not industry rates: use your own. Labor is $62 an hour. Walls are 24,000 square feet of gypsum board in a three-coat system; primer rolls at 250 square feet an hour and each finish coat at 200; every coat spreads at 400 square feet a gallon, primer at $28 a gallon and finish at $42.

Brightline Painting's estimate, Harbor Point levels 2 and 3 (fictional)
ItemQuantityLabor hoursLaborMaterial and equipmentTotal
Walls, prime and two finish coats24,000 SF336$20,832$6,720$27,552
Hollow metal door frames80 each60$3,720$960$4,680
Open ceiling, one dryfall coat6,000 SF15$930$1,960$2,890
Punch and touch-up, two return trips2 trips32$1,984$150$2,134
Direct cost443$27,466$9,790$37,256

How the wall line is built: prime 24,000 ÷ 250 = 96 hours; finish 24,000 ÷ 200 = 120 hours a coat, × 2 = 240; 96 + 240 = 336 hours × $62 = $20,832. Material: 24,000 ÷ 400 = 60 gallons a coat; 60 of primer × $28 = $1,680 and 120 of finish × $42 = $5,040, together $6,720. Frames: 80 × 0.75 hour = 60 hours, and 80 × $12 of material = $960. The open ceiling sprays at 400 square feet an hour, 6,000 ÷ 400 = 15 hours; the dryfall spreads at 300 square feet a gallon, so 6,000 ÷ 300 = 20 gallons at $38 = $760, plus a $1,200 lift. Punch: 2 trips × 16 hours = 32 hours.

Checks: 336 + 60 + 15 + 32 = 443 hours, and 443 × $62 = $27,466; $6,720 + $960 + $1,960 + $150 = $9,790; $27,466 + $9,790 = $37,256. With 15% overhead and profit, $37,256 × 0.15 = $5,588.40, rounded to $5,588, so the bid is $37,256 + $5,588 = $42,844.

A schedule of values that bills coat by coat

Painting is billed late in the job, often in only three or four pay periods, so how the schedule of values is split decides whether you get paid for what is on the wall. Split walls into prime and finish coats so a primed floor bills that month, keep frames and ceilings on their own lines, and put the last trip on a punch line. Brightline's $42,844 bid becomes:

Brightline Painting's schedule of values, and the period the prime coat finishes (fictional, 10% retainage)
LineScheduled valueThis periodPercent this period
1. Mobilization, submittals and color samples$1,800$00% (billed earlier)
2. Walls, prime coat$9,600$9,600100%
3. Walls, finish coats$21,400$6,42030%
4. Door frames$5,300$2,65050%
5. Open ceiling$3,200$00%
6. Punch, touch-up and attic stock$1,544$00%
Total$42,844$18,670

Checks: $1,800 + $9,600 + $21,400 + $5,300 + $3,200 + $1,544 = $42,844. This period: 30% of $21,400 = $6,420 and 50% of $5,300 = $2,650; $9,600 + $6,420 + $2,650 = $18,670. Retainage at 10% is $1,867.00, so the period adds $16,803.00 to the payment due.

Paint is local and short-lead, so stored material is rarely worth billing; where a large order of a specialty coating is delivered early, bill it as stored only if your subcontract allows it, as a sub's pay application explains. The real money problem is retainage: a painter finishes in the last weeks, so the retainage on its whole contract waits for the job's final payment, behind punch lists that are mostly other trades' damage. Ask before you sign when retainage on your work is released, and run the numbers with how to calculate retainage.

Closeout for the painting trade

  • Maintenance instructions for each coating system, which the federal guide specification lists as an operation and maintenance submittal.
  • A final color schedule: manufacturer, color name and number, sheen, and where each is used. It is what the owner uses for every repaint.
  • Attic stock in the quantity and containers the specification asks for, labeled and signed for.
  • Any coating warranty the specification calls for, and your workmanship warranty.
  • A punch list that separates your touch-up from damage by others, so the second goes on a change order.
  • Final lien waiver and the retainage release request.

The federal guide specification also has the painter demonstrate that doors, cabinets and operable windows still move freely after the coatings have cured, "prior to invoicing for final payment" (UFGS 09 90 00). Painted-shut hardware is a classic last-week call. For everything else a sub owes from bid to final payment, see the subcontractor's guide.

How it works in Conflo

When a GC sends a painting package through Trade bids in Conflo, you answer the invitation, ask your questions on it (the answers go to every bidder without your name) and acknowledge each trade addendum before you submit. Your bid is a base amount, each of the GC's scope items marked included or excluded with an optional breakout, alternates, and your exclusions and qualifications, which is where the clarifications above go; you can attach your proposal and revise until bids close. There is no unit-price field, so put prices per added color or per extra trip in your qualifications.

An electrical bid invitation as the subcontractor sees it in Conflo: who it is from and when bids are due, a trade addendum to acknowledge before bidding, the scope of work with its scope items and the alternates to price, and the questions and answers shared with every bidder.
A bid invitation as the sub sees it in Conflo (an electrical package in the demo): the due date, a trade addendum to acknowledge, the scope items and alternates, and the shared questions and answers.

Under contract, you bill in Pay apps against your schedule of values: each month the percent complete this period for each line, and any materials stored. Previous billing carries forward, no line can go past 100%, retainage is worked out at the contract's rate, and the GC approves the pay app or sends back only the lines it disputes, each with a note. Lines are dollar amounts, so the prime-and-finish split has to be in the lines themselves.

The bottom line

A painting bid is a takeoff by surface and system, your own production rates, and a short list of clarifications at the drywall line, the open ceiling and damage by others. Bill coat by coat so the prime coat is paid the month it goes on.

Before your next bid, add the six trade lines in the clarifications table to your proposal template, with a price per added color and per extra trip.

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Sources

  1. UFGS 09 90 00, Architectural Paints and Coatings (August 2026) — Whole Building Design Guide (USACE, NAVFAC, AFCEC). Read October 22, 2026.
  2. PCA P1, Touch Up Painting and Damage Repair: Financial Responsibility and Definition of a Properly Painted Surface — Painting Contractors Association. Read October 22, 2026.

Questions

How do you take off a commercial painting job?

Measure each surface by coating system: square feet of walls and ceilings by height, each door and frame, linear feet of trim, rails and exposed pipe. Count the colors on the finish schedule. Then turn quantities into hours with your production rates and into gallons with each product's spread rate and coat count.

Is damage by other trades the painter's touch-up?

No. The Painting Contractors Association's standard P1 says damage caused by others is repaired after a change order from the contracting entity, on a lump sum or time and material basis, and is distinct from touch-up of the painter's own work.

How should a painting schedule of values be split?

By area and by coat: prime and finish coats as separate lines, frames, ceilings and exposed structure on their own lines, plus lines for submittals and samples and for punch, touch-up and attic stock, so each stage bills when it is done.

Can you paint in an unheated building?

Check the specification and the product data. The federal guide specification says not to apply coatings below 50 degrees F, above 95 degrees F, or within 5 degrees F of the dew point unless pre-approved by the Contracting Officer and the manufacturer.